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The Tea Party Movement’s Deafening Silence

June 13, 2010

…or, ‘pay no attention to that man behind the curtain’

It seems that by the week, the month and the election cycle, the curtain gets pulled back a little bit more on what Brent Budkowsky has correctly labeled the ‘polyester populism’ of the Tea Party Movement. And as it does, it becomes more and more obvious just how pervasive and powerful corporate control of our country, our government and our lives has become.

Of course the first clue to the wizard at work behind the ‘Tea Party curtain’ was provided during the 2008 bailout of Wall St. that garnered nary a peep out of anyone from what is now the Tea Party. The end result was that through the largesse of taxpayer dollars, the rich companies and the powerful people running them stayed rich and powerful. But then came the Stimulus Act of 2009, and the same folks that soaked up taxpayer dollars in November 2008 became so outraged at irresponsible government spending that the wizard behind the curtain rolled out Rick Santelli to deliver his scripted rant on CNBC calling for a tea party uprising against the government, which was conveniently followed by an overnight roll out of well-funded websites and tea party chapters around the country.

Now BP Oil, and the devastating oil spill they are responsible for in the Gulf, has served to pull the curtain back even further, revealing more of the wizard pulling the Tea Party levers and switches.

I mean c’mon folks, let’s think about this for a minute. If there was ever a populist cause that deserved the anger of the Tea Party Movement, it is BP and the disaster in the Gulf. Why do I say that?

Well for one thing, when the intellectually challenged Santelli read his script on CNBC calling for a revolt against the government like that which took place in Boston, poor Rick was oblivious to the reality that the 1773 insurrection was largely in response to the East India Company, a British corporation, and their monopoly on tea imports screwing Americans. Still, Santelli’s false rallying cry ignited many demonstrations, rallies and marches of angry Americans.

However, in response to a modern day British corporation with a long and well known record of callous disregard for U.S. laws and regulations impacting American interests and lives, the current Tea Party Movement has little if anything to say about it.

  • Where are the angry demonstrations at BP gas stations around the country Tea Partiers?
  • Why no marches flying yellow flags with coiled snakes proclaiming ‘Don’t Spill On Me!’
  • Where are protests holding posters with Tony Hayward’s image, oil dripping from his fangs or the blood of Gulf wildlife dripping from his fingers?
  • Where is the outrage against a foreign company soiling our shores, while still raking in millions at the pumps?
  • Why do the unfounded claims of death panels by Palin and Grassley send Tea Partiers to the buses to march on Washington, but the deaths of 11 Americans and the devastation of American livelihoods in the Gulf region elicit a shrug and a comment like the one posted by Kythra at Furfinnity “that shit happens.”? (and BTW Kythra, why don’t you try telling that to the families of the 11 that died on that BP leased oil rig)

I mean really, I just don’t get it. How many Tea Party members are still rolling into the local BP to fill up their American made cars or trucks? Where is the Tea Party mantra of taking back our country from foreign influences? Is there an organized Tea Party movement to boycott BP, a British company, and instead support American owned oil companies? If there is, I sure haven’t heard about it.

But then again, have you noticed what has been going on with the high profile media personalities who are the spiritual leaders of the movement and outspoken critics of the POTUS? Seems that the same voices who attacked everything done by the current administration as a Tea Party rallying cry, no matter how major or minor, have little to say about what is taking place in the Gulf.

Why isn’t Glenn Beck up in arms, running to his blackboard to outline lavish conspiracies about foreign corporations and their plans to subvert the American way of life?

How come Sean Hannity isn’t standing on a stage somewhere exhorting outraged Americans to punish BP and those who were leading the cheers to DRILL, BABY DRILL at the Republican Convention in 2008 or at the Tea Party Convention?

Sadly, in the face of what is looking more and more like one of the most damaging and devastating attacks on American soil, and American lives, by a foreign entity in a generation, all we hear from the Tea Party Movement is deafening silence. Could it be because of the wizard behind the Tea Party curtain?

Toto…where are you when we need you?

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  1. Contrary Mary permalink
    July 21, 2010 8:51 am

    It seems to me that tea partyers are only all about whining about taxes, which most of them, I’d dare to theorize, are on the lower end of the middle-class income bracket, and gets back every cent they pay in. And this writer is right when bringing up where are they when a REAL event demands that we make a stand!? Yeah, just where are those brave tea partyers when we need them?

    • Jay permalink
      July 21, 2010 2:12 pm

      That’s because the Republicans have brainwashed them into thinking they will all be filthy rich someday, and that every small business is soaked in taxes.

      In truth, 8% of what are classified as small business, are in the top two tax brackets. And those 8% account for 72% of small business income. A small business can have up to $27 million in income, or up to 1500 employees, depending on the industry. Not really the Mom & Pop shops you think of. Mom & Pop aren’t being hit with high taxes. The Average Effective Federal Income Tax Rate for all small businesses is 19.8%.

      As a small business owner, the federal government isn’t my problem, the state is. That’s where all my headaches come from. I filed my monthly sales tax return yesterday. I have a service business with one location. I had to file for 31 cities and counties, all at different rates, plus 2 for the state.

  2. Deanna Z permalink
    June 25, 2010 2:29 pm

    Just to let you know that the Tea Parties are far from silent my comment on the timeline and George Soros came from Tea Party members do a lot of investigating insted of just talking and relying on the propaganda dished out to us daily by the media.

    • Karen permalink
      September 24, 2010 9:03 am

      Your comments would be easier to read if you would learn some basic English grammar rules. Its not hard, we teach 12 year olds.

      Welcome to America. Now learn English.

  3. Deanna Z permalink
    June 25, 2010 2:23 pm

    This e-mail contains blogs and comments from several sites. We have all e-mailed Reps and the media and are ignored. We do not think this was an accident. When something smells bad it is usually rotten and this smells very bad! Most of us have not been fooled. The people are not stupid, we can connect the dots and know when we are being conned
    The Obama regime gave George Soros 250 billion dollars to drill offshore in Brazil and he is the largest stock holder but why would he need two stock numbers ( shown Below)?
    The Obama regime needed this disaster to grow as large as possible for two reasons:
    1- To push Cap and Trade
    2- Bring in more oil from Brazil
    That is why Obama was so slow in reacting and why he refused then and is still refusing outside help. It is also the reason for the moratorium
    on drilling. All the blame is being put on BP to cover for the fact that the government and the fact they forced BP to drill that deep.

    The fact that not one mention of the possibility of foreign/domestic terrorism/sabotage being the cause of even one of ” accidents ” happening within on month just screams cover-up!

    Check out the one month timeline.
    On March 31,2010 Obama announces he will OK off shore exploration and expanding coal mining. Same day it is reported Sachs Goldman Sachs Asset Management (US) sells off 4,680,822 shares? Coincidence? We would like to know if any of the money went to buy shares in .Petroleo Brasileiro S.A.Petrobras.

    April 3, 2010 An explosion and fire at a Washington State oil refinery has claimed a fifth life.
    April 5, 2010 W Virginia coal mine explosion kills 25 April 20, 2010 Oil Rig explosion
    April 20, 2010 Deepwater Horizon rig, 11 killed
    April 30, 2010 2 men killed in KY mine collapse
    May 5, 2010 The AGE Refinery truck explosion and fire happened shortly before 11.30am local time on San Antonio’s south east side.

    These are the top 5 holdings of George Soros

    1.Petroleo Brasileiro S.A.Petrobras (PBR) – 9,818,323 shares, 15.42% of the total portfolio
    2.Hess Corp. (HES) – 5,123,198 shares, 10.56% of the total portfolio
    3.Petroleo Brasileiro S.A.Petrobras (PBR-A) – 5,884,700 shares, 7.53% of the total portfolio
    4.Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan Inc. (POT) – 1,978,053 shares, 7.06% of the total portfolio
    5.Plains Exploration & Production Company (PXP) – 6,526,400 shares, 6.84% of the total portfolio

    Note that there are two Petrobas stock numbers (PBR and PBR-A, numbers 1
    & 3 listed above).
    This looks interesting to me considering the Soros-Obama connections.

    The media and government are silent now about the first so called ” whistler blower “. Why? Because this is what he said they don’t want you to hear again.
    Former CEO of Shell Oil was on Hannity talking about the oil rig explosion and stated that something was very wrong, very bad happened out there because that explosion should never have happened, I E a worker ” accidentally ” shoved another rod down the pipe where that seal was damaged”but that has been conveniently ignored by the media and we haven’t heard from or seen this man in weeks since the people picked up on that part of what he said. The fact is that the pipe had been sealed off for four weeks and the seal was working until that “employee” shoved that rod down the pipe. Since the whistle blower made that statement on one has seem him and no attempt by the media has been made to find the man who shoved the rod down that pipe.
    Haven’t you noticed that all the environmentalists have been very quiet about this. No protest marches,nothing.

    • Jay permalink
      June 25, 2010 5:33 pm

      I’m just going to touch on one part. Reports claiming that the federal government has refused help are not only incorrect — foreign assistance has been utilized — but are also misleading: purchasing resources and expertise is vastly different from accepting “foreign aid.”

      The gov’t has only declined one offer, that being for a chemical dispersant from France, that isn’t approved for use in the US. I haven’t heard of a shortage of dispersant, so I don’t call that a big deal.

      Most offers have come with a price tag. Although the US nearly always give emergency aid and assistance for free, that is not the case with other countries offering help here. Nearly all want to sell their services or product to the gov’t or BP.

      Only Mexico, with wide swaths of poverty among its population, offered the U.S. anything for free. It said it would give the U.S. government some containment boom. BP separately purchased 13,780 feet of boom and two skimmers from Mexico in early May, according to the State Department.

      –Britain, America’s closest ally and headquarters to London-based BP, said it would sell chemical dispersants and containment boom for use cleaning up the spill. London’s mayor, Boris Johnson, has previously complained about what he called “buck-passing and name-calling” in the U.S. against BP.
      –Russia, which received $70.5 million in U.S. aid last year and $78 million in 2008, said it could send boom, oil containers and ships if the U.S. paid for them.
      –China offered containment booms for a price. When a major earthquake struck in northwest China in April, the U.S. quickly gave $100,000 for relief supplies, and after another major earthquake in southwestern China in 2008, the U.S. donated $500,000 through the U.S. embassy in Beijing to the Red Cross to buy and deliver emergency supplies there. Congressional researchers estimate the U.S. spends roughly $30 million on foreign aid to China each year, including educational exchanges and health programs.
      –Israel, which receives roughly $3 billion in U.S. military aid and other assistance, also said it would send containment boom, if the U.S. paid for it.
      –France offered to send chemical dispersants and equipment to clean oil off birds but only for a price.
      –Kenya, which received more than $24 million in U.S. aid last year and $11 million in 2008 for humanitarian aid, offered to send fire boom but only if the Obama administration paid.
      –Vietnam offered a ship with oil-collecting sweep arms if the U.S. paid for it. The U.S. spent $102 million in all types of aid to Vietnam in 2008. When Typhoon Ketsana hit that country last fall, affecting 3 million people, the U.S. spent $100,000 on relief operations.
      –Romania made a “general offer of support” but asked the U.S. government for payment. After heavy rains sent in July 2008 sent four major rivers over their banks and killed five people, the U.S. gave $50,000 for emergency supplies.
      –Croatia offered to send technical experts and plans, for a price. The U.S. gave Croatia $50,000 to buy local firefighting equipment in 2007 when more than 800 wildfires broke out during an unusually hot and dry summer.

      A chart of offers under consideration is at http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/143488.pdf

      From the Unified Command, June 22: Those offers of international assistance that were not accepted, while greatly appreciated, did not meet the operational requirements of the Unified Command. These offers have not been declined because they may be needed in the future as response strategies change. Some challenges in accepting these offers included:
      –Equipment failed to meet US requirements/specifications (i.e. dispersant not on approved list/containment boom made of non-approved material)
      –Contingencies placed on the offers proved logistically impracticable when compared to other sources.
      –In one instance, the offering country’s export laws prohibited delivery of the assistance
      –Contingencies placed on the offers made it difficult for the Unified Command to meet the contingency

      And there are 15 foreign ships involved in the cleanup.

  4. Aunty Em Ericann permalink
    June 18, 2010 8:18 pm

    I love gratuitous references to The Wizard of Oz. Go figure.

    With all my love,
    Aunty Em

  5. Frank Crewe permalink
    June 16, 2010 10:46 am

    So 11 Americans died because of BP did they. Well as unfortunate as that is it pales into insignificance against the 25,000 that died because of the Union Carbide (American Corporation) at Bhopal in India or the 167 that died when the Piper Alpha rig owned by Occidental Petroleum (American Corporation).

    How much wailing and gnashing of teeth occurred over these disasters in the US? Especially since no Americans died.

    If you want to throw stone don’t live in a glass house.

    As long as we use oil these environmental disasters will continue to happen especially when drilling near to coastlines. So you have two choices.

    1. Find cleaner alternatives to fossil fuels.
    2. Stop complaining and be prepared to pay clean up the messes we bring upon ourselves.

  6. Charles permalink
    June 15, 2010 2:21 pm

    The tea party keeps getting dragged in different directions. It started as some people with better ideals than what they were seeing in Washinton. The problem is every kook and freak in the nation that does not agree with the two major parties latched onto the newest ship to set sail. The reputation of the tea party has been made laughable because there was nobody in charge, the a few people claiming to be, solid people got disillusioned and left the party before its bad elements tainted them. The idea was noble but the party morphed into an ugly monster.

    • Dan permalink
      June 16, 2010 1:39 am

      The Tea Party was born out of the R3volution. When suddenly there was a massive influx of new people pulling the movement in all sorts of directions. I distinctly remember talk of how it was up to each and every one of us to educate and inform everyone. Things take time especially one person at a time. We will not relent, and our numbers grow with each passing week. The fundamental truths of the founding of our country still echo in the hearts and minds of true patriots today.

      You will notice the Tea Party is and has been solidifying around constitutional thought that transcends all other issues. You cannot forget the “love” in the R3volution; and that is having enough love for fellow man to allow for them to wake up, each according to their own experience, we must help them see it.

      It’s not time to give up my friend, it’s time to find another neighbor and have that conversation about our country having lost it’s way.

      Welcome to the R3volution!

  7. joeliberty permalink
    June 15, 2010 12:04 pm

    I have to admit one thing, corporations do have a lot of control in our government…….but how did they get this control? You guessed it…..government fascism on both sides of the isle. I thought the Tea Party Movement would become hijacked by right-wing nuts, the same way Obama hijacked the anti-war left (have you noticed….we do not hear a peep out of them now), but the Tea Party seems that it is shaking off the Republican attempts to hijack it from within. If you wonder why the Tea Party people are not attacking corporations, it is because they know that they are only part of a much larger problem….corrupt politicians and corrupt government. Once we get our government under control and knock it down to size, big government will not be able to broker fascist corporate deals under the table. Furthermore, what BP done is out of our jurisdiction, period! It happened in international waters. Personally, I boycott BP by not buying their fuel. I used to buy their fuel, but not anymore. This is how a free market works. You can go lobby the government to put sanctions and restrictions on them, it might drive up the price of your fuel. The best way to show your disapproval is, as you said “protesting them” with your wallet or however else you like. You are blowing hot air and the more you and your shills in the mainstream media try to demonize everyday Americans, the more it will backfire. Just look at their ratings if you do not believe me. The Internet Revolution is here!

    • September 29, 2010 8:18 am

      I don’t know about not hearing from the “anti-war left”
      The left is constantly battering Obama
      (and I prefer that to the “talking point right”, even if
      it gets annoying)

      they complain about Afghanistan, even though he Said
      we were going to increase our presence there..no surprise

      They are angry about the stimulus. They felt
      (perhaps accurately now that we see how slowit’s been)
      they he should of kept the response Federal… ALA
      FDR… and have been very vocal about the failure of his “moderate”
      approach

      They complain about Health Care and the lack of a Public Option.
      It’s in part Their stats that drive up the numbers of
      those opposed, but they are complaining it didn’t go far enough..

  8. Dan permalink
    June 14, 2010 11:03 pm

    @ Adams,

    Decisions about end of life treatment have historically been made by the family who either has insurance coverage to pay for it or depending on how deep their pockets are decide to foot the bill themselves. In that regard you could say the family is “The death panel”.

    What’s changed here is now the requirement of a “prescription” by the doctor that you can have life sustaining treatment, and then add the “quality reporting initiative” where a “consensus based organization” shall measure the creation and adherence to “Life sustaining orders”. It’s pretty clear just skimming through the section you were nice enough to point out.

    Your going to have to really throw me a harder question than that. Fundamental transformation from the family to the government. This says that even if a family could afford life sustaining treatment it can be denied by the doctor or by the “consensus based organization” or by the “secretary”.

    You havent even begun to touch on issues of constitutionality of the bill.

    I’m really starting to think all you lefties have a few things in common. You must not have kids or care what is left for them, assuming you didn’t butcher them in the womb. You don’t mind stealing from the children to pay for things you want that can’t be afforded by our tax money; printing and borrowing is *ok* in your book. You really don’t seem to care about the laws that govern our law makers.

    Take for example the war on drugs, it does not matter if you agree or disagree with the war. What matters is they did not pass a constitutional amendment to declare it. Witness 1919 with the ratification of prohibition of alcohol. Why did it take an amendment to the constitution back then, but now the federal government buys corporations and declares war on the population without regard to the constitution? Looks to me like the fed is completely unchained from the constitution and y’all don’t care. Hope you like it when our country goes the way of Rome. Both parties are playing a game of russian roulette to see who will be the president and in power when the time comes to dissolve the republic and declare our first American Ceaser.

    All Hail!
    Regards,
    Dan

    • Jay permalink
      June 16, 2010 4:23 pm

      Dan, just skimming through the section doesn’t cut it, except I guess for teabaggers.
      [I]What’s changed here is now the requirement of a “prescription” by the doctor that you can have life sustaining treatment, [/I] WRONG. There is no requirement that you have this counseling in order to have a living will or similar order. But you are allowed to have counseling about your options, and have it paid for once every 5 years.

      [I]and then add the “quality reporting initiative” where a “consensus based organization” shall measure the creation and adherence to “Life sustaining orders”. It’s pretty clear just skimming through the section you were nice enough to point out.[/I]Yea. What’s your point. They’re gonna monitor or study whether orders are carried out as desired.

      [I]This says that even if a family could afford life sustaining treatment it can be denied by the doctor or by the “consensus based organization” or by the “secretary”.[/I] Wrong again. It doesn’t say any such thing. Are you just picking random words and making sentences to suit your arguement?

      • Dan permalink
        June 17, 2010 12:53 pm

        You are funny, skimming through the section is all that it deserves because the whole thing is unconstitutional. No where is this power delegated to the federal government. It’s doesn’t matter if you are right or wrong about the existance of death panels in a document where the authors of the document change the definitions of words to suit their needs. The point about prohibition seems to have completely gone over your head.

      • Jay permalink
        June 18, 2010 8:42 am

        I’m not trying to be funny. You’re wrong or you’re telling lies. You thanked Adams for the link to the section, then lied about what it said, or you have a comprehension problem. When called on it, you say it doesn’t matter what it says, etc.
        Why should we consider any of the tea party’s often outlandish claims, when they can’t tell or accept the truth when it’s right in front of them? All they do is repeat the untruths they are told, and complain about what the majority support. Then they threaten revolution because they don’t get their way. See Sharon Angle for a prime example.
        If a minority of the people are unhappy and threaten revolution, are they patriots? Or terrorists. Other revolutions have been led by Lenin, Mao, the Ayatollah.
        Another thing, most of the tea party are over 45, say big government is evil, but don’t touch my social security or medicare, which only big government can deliver.

      • Dan permalink
        June 18, 2010 11:18 am

        I think I was clear. I skimmed through it and came to the conclusion I came to. It was said I was wrong, and I have not offered to defend my interpretation. In fact I said the issue wasn’t important enough for me to spend the time to win the argument because the issue of it being unconstitutional was more important. You draw your own conclusion about that, sorry it doesn’t fit into your black and white Boolean world. I left it open that you could be right.

        By the way, you haven’t even bothered to adress my point. I think I have covered yours.

      • Dan permalink
        June 18, 2010 12:08 pm

        The tea party is about fiscal responsibility and the constitution of the united states and you are comparing us to communist revolutionaries? I think comparisons to the founders of this country are more correct if you want to be rational.

        I would be honored to be the one left without a chair when the federal ponzi scheme of social programs comes crashing down. Let me be the one who doesn’t have retirement and works to the day I die if it shelters my babies from this and they get their freedom and persuit of happiness.

        Don’t parrot your lies and talking points then point at us.

      • jay permalink
        June 19, 2010 1:40 pm

        It was never my intention to address your comments regarding healthcare, prohibition or the tenth amendment, but if you insist.
        You tea partiers keep dragging out the 10th Amendment. First of all, it doesn’t carry the weight you think it does. When the 10th was added, it was to assuage the anti-federalists. However the word ‘expressly’ was rejected to be placed before ‘delegated’, as requested by the anti-federalists. This has stood the test of time.

        Constitutional amendments are not required for the so called “war on drugs”, as (1) this is not a real ‘war’ in the same terms as the War of 1812; WWI or the Gulf War; (2) laws have been passed making various drugs and the manufactur or importation of them illegal; (3) the Supreme Court has not declared those laws to be unconstitutional. If it was a realwar, Congress could declare it without a constitutional amendment.

        A constitutional amendment wasn’t required for medicare, social security, and a host of other things. Why should it be required for healthcare.

        Btw, I do happen to understand boolean logic and I read binary and hexadecimal too. 🙂

      • Dan permalink
        June 19, 2010 3:42 pm

        @ Jay,

        Thanks for lightening the mood of the discussion. I was expecting you to go the other way. Pleasent surprise!

        I agree with your assessment of the 10th amendment, based on the grounds the supreme court has not upheld it. So, I assume you have read the federalist papers, or a portion thereof. The tenth amendment had much more weight in years past than it does today. The text of the 10th amendment has not changed though, and there has been no repeal of the tenth amendment but yet the federal courts act as though it does not exist. Humm…

        I fully understand the term war used in that syntax. However, you have to admit there is a fundamental difference today when the prohibition of drugs can be declared without a constitutional amendment whereas it took an amendment for prohibition of alcohol over 90 years ago.

      • jay permalink
        June 19, 2010 5:25 pm

        I don’t think it required a constitutional amendment to prohibit alcohol. With lite research, I have not been able to find an aswer as to why they didn’t just pass a law, or why simple laws suffice for drugs and myriad other things now. There’s nothing in the Constitution, nor any amendments, giving you the right to alcohol or drugs, so a simple law can restrict them.

        But it took the heat off of Congress. Instead, 37 (?) states had to ratify it. So no blame from either side.

        That’s just a guess though.

      • Dan permalink
        June 19, 2010 7:15 pm

        It’s because back then they took the tenth amendment seriously. “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. ”

        The 10th means that if it’s not a power listed in the constitution the federal government can’t do it. Reserved for the states or the people, this is why prohibition of alcohol had to be ratified.

        This was the fourth balance of power that kept our federal government honest and in it’s proper place. That’s why the whole amendment process and ratification is in there.

        In the early 1900’s a series of really bad choices, and some twisted supreme court rulings in the mid 1900’s have led us to a place today where the power of the federal government is almost absolute.

        If the states and the people are unable to restore the balance of power you will see the end of our republic. If you want to understand the R3volution, and the Tea Party, start here, and see what happened to the Roman Republic when their balance of power was corrupted. Doesn’t mean you have to agree.

      • Dan permalink
        June 20, 2010 5:13 am

        All of those other programs you listed, social security, Medicaid, etc. Are very unconstitutional and further back up the point of how the fed is ignoring the laws that are supposed to govern them. After people got used to that, now they buy corporations, take land to give to others, the abuse will only keep getting worse until the very republic is replaced. Already you hear of congress not reading the bills. It will be disolved at some point.

      • jay permalink
        June 20, 2010 9:37 pm

        It’s a very narrow interpretation of the tenth amendment that takes the view that the federal government has jurisdiction only if the Constitution clearly grants such. Typically called Dual Federalism.

        We as a country have moved gradually toward Cooperative Federalism, which holds that the federal government is supreme. This has been upheld as early as 1824.

        So the tenth amendment arguement is an old one, usually only brought up when someone doesn’t like a federal law or program. Anyway, it’s not something worth arguing over here.

        Btw, the reason a constitutional amendment was used for prohibition, is that progressives wanted to make the law permanent along with the other reforms of the time; direct election of Senators, income tax and women’s suffrage. Prohibition, from a political perspective, was supported to take politcal power and corruption out of saloons. When the progressive era collapsed, prohibition was eventually repealed.

      • Dan permalink
        June 20, 2010 11:12 pm

        So, we do understand each other. I stand on the other side of the 10th. I fear your side leads to despotism under a Ceaser, gone the way of the Roman Republic. I fear we will last just more than half the time of Rome. I do hope I am wrong; however, history says I am right.

      • jay permalink
        June 20, 2010 11:45 pm

        You are probably right, but the downfall of the US won’t be for the reasons you necessarily think. I doubt we would be any better off if we had less federal laws and federal program. Likely much worse off. I think the balance is fairly decent and effective.

        But the American people as a whole are t0o greedy for their own good. If it takes a nickle from their wealth, they will fight it. Heres an example of the lack of common sense.

        We fight every dollar of the budget, with the excuse that we are leaving a huge debt to our children and even grandchildren. We are worried to death about the debt in 2050, and think that if we spend one dollar too much now, we won’t be able to fix it.

        We deny any possibility of global climate change, because it will mean changes in our lifestyle, and will cost us to make some of the changes. We do this even though a consensus, a large majority of scientists the world over support the theory of man made influences on global climate. Instead we listen to a few scientists, often not even experts in the field, or often on the payroll of large emitters of carbon and other pollution. Now here’s the kicker. If the consensus is right, and we are wrong in our denial, our children and grandchildren may well live on a planet deep into an irreversible slide to become non-supporting of human life. In other words, if the deniers are wrong, 10 years from now may be too late to change our ways and heal the planet. But we’re willing to take that chance, rather than have to pay more for energy now.

        That is the ongoing mindset that will ruin this country.

        We cannot go without manufacting things, making things to trade, and remain a major economic power. We have the worlds largest government budget. A major reason for that is that 1/3 goes to our defense budget. We spend 10 times what the next biggest spender does. If we want to remain a (the) military superpower, we must remain a major economic power. That is not going to be done over the long run with finance being our major business.

        But I don’t think the people of this country will do the right thing. Too many people want the good life, and will put profits before people.

      • Dan permalink
        June 22, 2010 7:56 pm

        The problem with spending is much worse than you describe. When the federal reserve creates money out of thin air – essentially punching it up on their calculator and transferring it to the federal government. The effect is devestating. First it devalues the money we have; example: when the stimulus was passed the value of the dollar dropped 4% that day. My teenage kids asked me “What does that mean?” I explained they just had 4% of all the money they are ever going to earn in their entire life stolen from them. In addition I just had 4% of all the money I had in savings stolen from me. Old people, kids, poor people, you name it, they just ripped off the whole country to give that money to a bunch of very wealthy people.

        When I started my career 22 years ago the dollar was worth 3 times what it is today judging by gas prices and the cost of food. Contractors in my line of work make the same today they did back then.

        To add insult to injury we are expected to pay that money back to Mr. Calculator with interest, compounded with our dollar not going as far to buy essentials for the family. I’m not worried about 40 years from now, it’s today! it’s the last 22 years! The lifestyle I could provide my family… I think of all the family vacations we could have had, all the positive family memories that would be ours but no! it was stolen by Mr. Calculator aided by our federal government.

        The federal reserve is illegal according to the constitution, and just one more reason why all this power we talk about should be in the hands of the states. If a state overspends and goes bust that’s one thing, but the federal government overspends and look what it does to hard working families with the currency.

        No thank you on absolute power to the federal government, there is no balance, it’s not working nicely, and we all know that absolute power corrupts absolutely, give them a little more time, and they will abolish the republic. With every passing month they take another step towards that destiny and it must be stopped.

        Global warming can wait.

  9. ed leary permalink
    June 14, 2010 9:26 pm

    Dumb and Dumber

  10. L. E. Adams permalink
    June 14, 2010 11:33 am

    @ Dan the tparty member.

    Since there is no dictionary definition for death panel, it’s obviously left to your own interpretation. Can you please tell me how “advanced care planning consultation”, not end of life planning, equates to a death panel, “where the collective good no longer needs you” pray tell “WTF” are you talking about!

    Apparently you haven’t read the bill, not that your reading it would make a difference. comprehending it is the issue, and that’s what you’ll probably have trouble with.

    Prove me wrong the link to the bill is below, read it, comprehend it, if you still think there are death panels, you are beyond help!

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text?version=ih&nid=t0:ih:2825

  11. Dan permalink
    June 13, 2010 7:33 pm

    Everyone has a point where they wake up from the media induced slumber, for me it was the Ron Paul R3voluiton. I pray that you too wake up some day, right now you are a tool for the people who would destroy this great Constitutional Republic. Put your racism aside, try to understand, and preserve the freedom for our children.

    • ron permalink
      July 12, 2010 8:09 am

      I woke up long ago and thats why I always vote Liberal. Conservatives want to destroy the middle class and create a modern serfdom out our nation. Any talk of the power and strength of the free market is really just a cover for the redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the upper.

      You haven’t woken up, you’ve just realized your Conservative sweet dream is really Americas worst nightmare.

  12. Dan's Mom permalink
    June 13, 2010 7:31 pm

    Dan, come up from downstairs and quit playing on that computer and come up and massage my corns like a good boy. All day long I hear you raging–except for that 7 minutes when you get real quiet and mad when I try to open the door.

  13. Dan permalink
    June 13, 2010 4:46 pm

    Maybe because it has nothing to do with the size of government, federal overreach of power, or spending our childrens money. Big G does that, not BP.

    Personally I would have liked to see ‘ol Barry offer to help them fix the problem and help pool resources from all the major oil companies to get the problem solved quickly and effeciently instead of being a Tyrant and “putting his boot to their neck” ahh, but what else do you expect from a Tyrant? Guess he never was a team player, or interested in a team solution. See, that’s the un-american part of ‘ol Barry.

    He needed a distraction, and decided to crucify BP. Of course as his advisors say “Never let a good crisis go to waste”. I’m sure they will use this to push yet another unwanted federal power grab.

    What now lefty? When are you going to wake up, will it be after all your childrens freedom is gone? The Federal Gov is placing the financial yoke of opression and slavery on them right now as you poke fun at the very people trying to stop it.

    • June 13, 2010 5:07 pm

      What now lefty? When are you going to wake up, will it be after all your childrens freedom is gone? The Federal Gov is placing the financial yoke of opression and slavery on them right now as you poke fun at the very people trying to stop it.”

      No, maybe it’s when a foreign corporation doesn’t kill 11 Americans and destroy 11 American families. Maybe its when foreign corporations don’t devastate the economy of a region and the livelihoods of thousands of hard working Americans. Maybe it’s when Americans, instead of reacting to false claims of death panels by Sarah Palin and Chuck Grassley to board buses for demonstrations in DC, react as strongly to an attack on our soil and our way of life by a corporation who could care less about America aside from what’s in their wallets.

      Christ, you Tea Party idiots are about as dumb as they come, and part of me is sad that you have to live with that….but only a very small, small part.

      • Dan permalink
        June 13, 2010 5:56 pm

        Was BP charged with murder and I missed it?

        Talk about devastating the economy and livelihoods of thousands of hard working Americans… Whoa, you need only look as far as our own federal government to see that; except we’re not talking thousands… Try MILLIONS under the job-crushing socialist policies.

        Turns out the death panels were spot on, but they’re calling it end of life planning where the “collective good” no longer needs you. I must admit I thought it was a bit over the top when I first heard about it, but as the details emerged you call it whatever you like. Still a group of government people deciding when your life has no value. You like that lefty?

        I don’t think it’s been catagorized as an attack by anyone but you. Are the democrats in power aware we’ve been attacked? Why then did they let the company who attacked us clean it up? Why no counter attack?

        LOL you’re going to have to try harder than that to establish intellectual dominance. Simply proclaming that I am dumb with not a shred of evidence reveals the level of your intellectual acheivements.

        I’m curious, what do you have against our Constitutional Republic that you hate it so much? I would really like to understand where all this anger comes from.

      • Dan permalink
        June 13, 2010 6:22 pm

        OOohhh!!! I get it, I was re-reading your post to try and get some more incite into why you are so mad; then it hit me! You don’t like foreigners! Sounds like a wee bit of racism there doesn’t it ‘ol chap? So it’s ok when a domestic company has an accident where people die but not when it’s a foreign company.

        Personally I don’t think it’s ok at all for any tragic accident, life is too valuable. There are however risky professions and people do work those jobs.

        BTW, how long do you think it will be before the government decides that 11 lives are no longer worth living and sentances them to death by the so called death panels? You like that Lefty?

        Nice.

      • June 13, 2010 7:11 pm

        Good lord…how many times do you have to read the post to comprehend it? Sad…it’s just sad…

      • Dan permalink
        June 13, 2010 7:30 pm

        Perhaps you should try re-reading a few things, you obviously don’t understand what’s going on with our country.

  14. June 13, 2010 11:41 am

    P.S great article . You hit the nail on the head and now the tea party is dead . November is going to be fun .

  15. June 13, 2010 11:38 am

    I can tell you why there is no noise from the tea party . They are burned out . Their lamps are really dim now . I always knew their bulbs were a little dim . They wasted their time and energy try to stop a good thing and now they have no energy left . Well, I guess they can gas up at any BP station . I think the next move for the tea party and BP is to start selling duck and fish oil for the cars and trucks . Can’t wait to see how they sell us on that one . I think if you ask a tea party member who owns the gulf they would answer Mexico and thats why they don’t care .

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